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Mike Picou
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« on: February 25, 2010, 11:21:49 pm »

Carl, I am looking for more insight to the effects of fish hitting the carpet of the boat or a hot measuring board and ways to aid in the recovery when these things happen.

I try to keep my fish off the carpet as much as possible but it happens.  I always keep my check-it-skick stowed out of the sun until needed and dip it in the lake before measuring a fish.  I know that sure-life has some chemicals that help to stimulate regrowth of the slime but that only will help the fish if they go in the livewell for some amount of time.  What about the ones that never see the livewell? 

Is this really an issue or am I just spending too much time worrying about it?
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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2010, 11:30:17 am »

It is an issue, however if you are releasing the fish there is not much you can do about it unless you put them in the livewell. Let me describe to you what we have found in studies. This all has to do with handling fish, whether you drop them on the carpet, grab them with dry hands, or have the measuring stick hot and not wet.
You ever seen a 2nd degree burn on a human ? This is exactly what happens to the skin of a fish when the above happens. You could literally see the fingerprints on the side of the fish. And one actually had the rectangle shape of the measuring board on it during our summer study last year during one of our summer trail T's. Quite frankly, to see an 8 lb. 7 oz. with blisters ALL over it, you would want to puke. Needless to say, that fish didn't make it. Blisters all over it is when the fish was boat flipped and dropped onto the carpet and it flopped around for a while while they dropped another jig in the same hole of hydrilla. It is an effective technique, but obviously no regard for fish care. If your not putting them in your livewell, and you don't have your limit yet, perhaps you could drop them in for a bit and let them recover. Otherwise , all you can do is release them and hope for the best. If your livewells were big enough, and this is something I have started doing, is to make a salt dip on one side and keep your limit in the other side. I use stock salt you buy at the feed store. Mind you, you HAVE to rinse it out after each day, but it is effective at killing bacteria on their skin and making parasites let go. You dip them in for 10 seconds, then release them back in the lake. They will be stunned for a bit, but will then swim off under full power and healthy. Is also what we have incorperated into our weigh-in's. Is the last thing they get before they go down the fish tube at Diablo East. Is why I try to tell the boat flippers it is not a good idea. It isn't until I show them the fish three days later in a holding pen that they change their minds.
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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2010, 11:34:59 am »

We also found that stock salt in the right amount in the livewell enhances slime regeneration three fold. The stuff really works !
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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2010, 02:28:58 pm »

Thanks Carl, I will look into the salt stock and the suggestion of keeping the 2nd livewell as a "dip" before releasing.
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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2010, 04:01:31 pm »

When I get downstairs I will look up the formula of salt per gallon of water. Have it written down in my office.
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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2010, 06:36:16 am »

Interesting.  I may keep a bucket in the boat for the salt mix.  I try not to let the fish touch the carpet and never the measuring board unless it's close.  I keep the board in the shade and splash water on it before measuring.  I look forward to seeing the recipe.
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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2010, 11:47:44 am »

Wow. Never heard of that before. Great topic.
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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2010, 10:09:36 pm »

We're spoiled to have Carl here answering anything we come up with regarding fish care.  Awesome stuff!  Thanks Carl.
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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2010, 08:17:02 pm »

I am glad Picou asked the question . Good info Carl , thanks .
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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2010, 08:33:43 pm »

What about nets , what kind of damage to the slime coat do they do Carl ?
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2010, 11:05:16 pm »

Every net with the exception of the new rubber one's or the small hole mesh one's (like a minnow dip net) does damage the slime coat when used. That gets ugly too, but not as much as the rash or grabbing them without wet hands.
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Carl Wengenroth
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